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Put a Fork in It: Manchester Derby Stoppage Time Explained

September 21, 2009


For those who need the explanation, here’s the stoppage time broken down and a bit on “Manchester watches”:

89:00 Referee sets minimal stoppage time at 4:30

89:57 Craig Bellamy scores.  Indulges in a 55 second celebration

+ :30 for Carrick substitution

+ corners, free kicks, Shay Given focking about

95:27: Michael Owen hits net

Any questions?

Didn’t think so.

The only dodgy watches in Manchester are those pieces of fug gifted to his mercenaries by Sheikh Mansour.



20 Comments leave one →
  1. September 21, 2009 8:57 am

    In less than 24 hrs this extra time at old trafford debate has taken on 9/11 conspiracy standards. City fans will tell you that Fergie bought the ref, with Mark Hughes being quoted with the classic “We were robbed”

    There is NO debate with this. 4 minutes stoppages were right with the subs et al. The goal celebration and the carrick substitution added it up to 6 minutes. End of story. Shut the fuck up City

  2. September 21, 2009 9:28 am

    They counted Bellamy’s celebration and the alloted 30 seconds substitution time on Match of the Day last night and come up with the goal being only 1 second over the alloted time.

  3. beautifulfootball permalink
    September 21, 2009 9:45 am

    haha! there isnt supposed to be any more extra time on top of extra time! That’s the whole point of extra time! I know it happens a lot, but think about it, if there is extra time on extra time, what about extra time on that extra time, then the game would never finish!

    I take nothing away from man utd, they showed character, but i still believe man city deserved that one point. Man utd allowed some sloppy goals! Ref was definitely wearing man united panties!

    • September 21, 2009 12:09 pm

      I don’t really know where to start with that one.
      Just think about it. There is most definitely added time on top of initially stated stoppage time and always should be if the situation calls for it.
      Imagine if it were the other way around. Pointless.
      Argh, who was it Chelsea V Liverpool that went like 100 odd minutes once?
      That was insane.

  4. Shortbus permalink
    September 21, 2009 11:04 am

    It is the ref on the pitch and no one else that determines when the game has come to completion .
    I don’t care for either club, but it was lovely to see Sparkys rabid dog face walking off yesterday.
    One of the best derby’s I’ve seen other then young Dan Gossling 118 min goal against the red shite last year in the FA cup!

  5. September 21, 2009 12:11 pm

    Again. I don’t understand why this isn’t sinking in:
    Initially stated stoppage time is the MINIMUM expected time.
    Celebration, substitution, how many fouls and free kicks and corners?

    You can really lead a horse to water huh? Simple maths. I never was good in the subject and even I grasp this one.

  6. beautifulfootball permalink
    September 21, 2009 12:38 pm

    I still say the whistle was a tad too late.

    your stats and stats ive gotten on other pages are differences in seconds. extra 4 minutes, 45 seconds celebration. so really, we are just playing with numbers here.

    AND plus, If we’re counting celebrations and all, how come city didn’t get their “extra time” added on after the last goal? the ref blew the whistle right after kick off..

    • September 21, 2009 12:43 pm

      Actually, about 20 seconds elapsed after the kick off.
      Maybe watch again. Thanks.

  7. September 21, 2009 12:49 pm

    Like I said, put a fork in it.
    If there were any reasonable claim that United “cheated” don’t you think the FA would be investigating?
    I’ve got my “stats” from BBC, Sky, the FA, and other credible sources.

    City and the rest of the conspiracy theorists don’t have a pot to piss in on this one.
    Moving on…..

    • September 21, 2009 1:33 pm

      I think it’s just sore fans of anti-MU clubs that are of course complaining. I mean, which other clubs would benefit if MU drop points? Fans of Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal of course!

      Like KP said, put a fork in it! The game is over. It doesn’t matter how much rambling the other fans make. Just like red cards and penalties given or not, these things have a funny way of balancing itself out over the course of the season. Just you watch.

  8. maserati4200 permalink
    September 21, 2009 3:07 pm

    Upon reflection, Man City were not robbed. It was a fair cop – the added time was legitimate and Man Utd deserved the win. I say this as a Spurs supporter who is not the biggest fan of the Reds and SAF, especially after they claimed the Spurs “Glory, Glory song” as their own (which is subject to another debate, perhaps).

    The added time issue is another example of where technology could be used to avoid controversy.

    For example, in international and top flight club rugby and other sports (NFL, Basketball, etc), stoppages in play result in the clock being stopped and visible on the various screens and displays within the stadium and on TV.

    Wake up Premier League, The FA, UEFA, FIFA et al.

    • September 21, 2009 5:52 pm

      Owe heres a piece of song stealing trivia..

      Who was the first team to sing “Youll never walk alone” at matches

      Liverpool. nope. Celtic. nah

      It was United.

  9. beautifulfootball permalink
    September 21, 2009 5:10 pm

    i never said man utd cheated nor am i really bothered, i was simply stating my opinion, which was that the goal was too late. I know the game is over and the scoreline is as it is, that was never my point in the first place.

    Im fairly certain extra time was 4 minutes and not 4 and a half minutes! (never seen half a minute ever been put up on a board!). You dont count every single stoppage because I reckon if you seriously counted every single second lost, extra time to begin with would never be only 4 minutes. I have added it all up several times, and yep, i still say the goal was late.

    But even without this extra time drama, on the whole even though man utd was the better side, their defending was unworthy, which is why i think city shouldve walked away with one point.. then again, this is football.

  10. Joe Jeffries permalink
    September 21, 2009 6:12 pm

    Hughes should stop blaming the ref because it was Bellamy who cost City the game with his ridiculous celebration.

    Great blog by the way!

    All the best,


  11. Anon permalink
    September 21, 2009 6:35 pm

    God there are some blinkered muppets round here. You United fans are extra defensive. Must be rattled that Citeh’s mercenary hordes bloody nearly had yer.

  12. September 22, 2009 7:19 am

    i didn’t even saw the 4th official..even the english commentators were asking how much injury time there were.

    then i heard 4 minutes and i said wtf..

    fergie sent on carrick and i said we’ll be getting another 30 seconds and there had been a free-kick which rooney delivered and then afterwards..

    drama till the end :)

    city deserved nothing out of this game. utd gifted them two goals almost three because of a stupid mistake but ouf!

  13. Denis Riacca permalink
    September 22, 2009 3:53 pm

    Anyone saw Fergie close to the 4th official after Owen’s goal take a look at his watch and joking…. ok now you can whistle.. thanks for the extra on extra… a shame, they themselves champion!!!

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